John R. Miles

Jia Jiang.

But you describe how he expected rejection, but instead found surprising kindness.

What struck you the most about that?

I'm so glad you brought Vanessa up.

We were talking about the psychology behind our choices that we make when I interviewed her, and I want to get to that because it's a core part of your book.

I just wanted to ask one other question for you.

I've had Johann Hari on the show, and we talked about how disconnection, he feels, is the root of all suffering.

And then I had Julian Holt Lundstedt, who was talking about loneliness and its impact on us.

Do you think what we're really experiencing isn't just loneliness or disconnection, but that we're surrounded by people and we still feel invisible?

Let's talk about these small choices.

I first heard the term micro choice when I was talking to Michelle.

Now I'm drawing a whole blank.

She's a behavioral scientist at the university of Michigan.

Anyway, since I talked to her years, it's probably been five years ago.

I have continually heard people, Katie Milkman, Vanessa, other people talk about the power of micro choices and.

When you talk about this gap that we're facing, why is it these small choices that have the greatest potential to improve our lives?

Nick, I want to make sure I ask this question.

I want to talk about

Secrets, Adaptation, and Comparison.

So one of my favorite episodes I did years ago was with Michael Slapian, who does a lot of work on secrets.