John R. Miles

So just to give them another plug.

What you were just describing really brings me back to Charles Duhigg's most recent work and his book, Super Communicators, but even more so to Alison Woodbrook's research and her latest book.

And she describes it as when we're talking to someone, what we're really doing is looking at a mirror of ourselves and what we're

Going back to your whole thing on connection, so many of us aren't connecting and investing in the ways that we used to with others.

And when we don't do that, we start losing that connection that we see with other people because we get in such superficial types of conversations instead of really the deep listening that I think drove connection for millennia that seems to be disappearing more and more from our lives.

Just like you said, when you see yourself in that mirror, you see all those different stages in another person that yourself feel as well.

So I think what you just said was really beautiful.

I've recently interviewed Claude Silver, who's the chief heart officer of VaynerMedia.

And I love that idea of heart and leadership.

And you describe living from the back of the heart while taking action from the front.

And I was hoping you could just describe what that practice looks like.

I love that.

And Diana, how has writing wise effort changed how you parent create and lead?

I love that.

And finally, what does it mean for you, Diana, to live a passion-struck life?

Awesome.

Thank you for sharing that.

And for the listeners who want to learn more about you, where are the best places for them to go?

Diana, thank you so much for joining us today on Passion Struck.

It was such an honor to have you.