John R. Miles

And we would be in the office at 530 in the morning, working till it was dark.

And our Spanish friends would roll into work around 9 a.m.

They take a two hour siesta in the afternoon and they would work into the evening.

But I remember one of my close Spanish friends said to me, John, you Americans love to work and we work to live.

And it reminded me of something that you said to your parents that I'm going to live a making instead of make a living, which I just love.

I can completely relate to what you're saying.

For so many years of my life, I was chasing success.

I was trying to chase happiness.

And I found the more I chased, the emptier I became and that none of that comes from trying to chase it.

It comes from meaning in our lives.

It comes from those who we surround ourselves with.

And I think Viktor Frankl got it right.

We find meaning at work or in pursuing a creative

element that we're passionate about.

We find meaning in love.

Love could be love of our partner, caring for someone who might be sick, love of another human being.

It could be a friend.

It comes in suffering.

And I think as Dacher Keltner teaches, I think it can come in moral beauty by doing acts of kindness to others.

So I agree with you that when you start pursuing those things and you immerse yourselves in them, that is the secret that I found in this chapter of my life is that is bringing me more happiness and success than I ever felt before when I was trying to chase it.