John R. Miles

It becomes a result of having meaning and purpose and service in life.

I want to go into the fifth season here in a second, but I want to ask you one more question about the book of Awakening, which really was a turning point for millions of readers.

And as I understand it, it's not something that immediately became a New York Times bestseller.

out there for 10 years before Oprah discovered it.

And then it had its own journey on the other side.

But this book was written after your cancer journey.

And what I've heard you say when you talk about it is you call the book Short Doses of What Matters.

Today, looking back, what rises to the top of that list?

What matters more now than it ever did before?

Man, that really hit me.

And I think you're so right.

As I was immersing myself into the fifth season, because I'm myself now the second half of life, one of the things that struck me that I find so true is you point out that the years behind us grow longer than the years ahead.

And when that happens, the proper place of dreams and memory shifts.

And you say that dreams are the kindling of our aliveness.

And I love that because given my work centers on mattering, that belief that our presence has weight, meaning, and value is so important.

So how do you think presence, what you were just talking about, memory and dreams contribute to that feeling that we matter?

Wish I could go back to Spain.

Right.

2025 again.

I want to switch to celestial topics here for a second.