John R. Miles

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I am absolutely thrilled today to welcome Daniel Coyle, one of my favorite authors.

Daniel, how are you doing today?

I'm doing great, John.

Thanks for having me.

Last week, I had the honor of interviewing Barry Swartz, someone whose work I have studied since he put out The Paradox of Choice.

And I understand doing my research that he has had a major impact on you and your life and the books that you have written.

I was hoping we might start there.

As you and I were speaking before we came on, you used that word grow.

And I was telling you that I think I like the word cultivate better.

I think they express similar things.

We can't just expect things to happen to us.

And in my first book, Passion Struck, I wrote about this analogy that I think people use the concept of autopilot too much.

And so I tried to redefine it.

I think the way so many of us are living, getting back to what Barry was saying, is we act out our lives as if we're in the game of pinball, but instead of being the player,

We end up being the ball, bouncing off all the distractions of life instead of defining our path.

And I really think that's what he means when he talks about this cultivation.