John R. Miles

So Dan already named it.

The book we're talking about today is his brand new book titled Flourish, The Art of Building Meaning, Joy, and Fulfillment.

It's a masterpiece, just like his previous books.

But I want to go into this garden theme just a little bit more.

I learned servant leadership when I was in the military, and I'm going to talk to you about that here in a second.

And I used that servant leadership really well during my career as a Fortune 50 executive.

Up until a point.

Marshall Goldsmith has this great book, What Got You Here Isn't Going to Get You Where You Need to Go.

And to tie this into the world we are living in today, I really contend that service leadership has served its cause.

But what I really think leaders need to be in the future is something I call gardener leaders.

I got this from talking to General Stan McChrystal and Keith Crotch, the former CEO of DocuSign.

And we were talking about eyes on, hands off leadership.

And to me, that whole concept, eyes on, hands off, is what really defines someone who is gardening their people.

That the way they work

with eyes on is that they give them instructions enough so that they can flourish, but then they're hands off because someone who's micromanaged isn't going to flourish.

But if you give them the right ingredients, they are.

Does that analogy relate to you?

Dan, I've heard that several professional sports teams have started reading my book

And in chapter 12, I wrote this whole chapter on Gardner leadership.

Oh, that's so cool.