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And then more importantly, the community that they want to build outside in the community around it.

They take that very seriously in how they design everything they do in their stores.

It would be such an interesting project to take what Zingerman's has done and what Chick-fil-A has done and see how much they overlap.

Great call.

All right, all you business students, get busy.

Dan, if there was one thing that a person listening here today or watching you hoped would take away from our conversation, what would it be?

Great closure for the episode right there.

What I love about what you just said about the yellow doors mimics what you were saying about the cues earlier.

And it kind of mimics what I was saying about the transition points.

They're all the analogy or metaphor of the same thing.

But these are the moments that we need to pay more attention to because that's where true connection happens.

And that's where our life gets shaped, I think, for the better, or if you don't pay attention to them, for the worst.

I couldn't agree more.

Final question for you, Dan, is this.

I always ask this for the guests.

For you, what does it mean to live a passion struck life?

Wow.

I love it because that's what it means to me as well.

You're in a mattering moment, mattering project that your passion struck about.

Dan, it was such an honor to have you on the show.