John R. Miles

I remember when he first came out, he was just tearing it up.

And then the teams and the pitchers figured out his weakness and all of a sudden he couldn't hit a ball to save his life.

But in typical Michael Jordan fashion, what did he do differently that a lot of people wouldn't have done when he faced that situation?

I absolutely think that's one aspect.

The other thing that I thought was remarkable is that he would sit there and reportedly hit 1500 pitches a day until he figured out how to master the curve ball, which was really impacting his ability.

And watching that same thing, it was pretty interesting how many professional players thought if he would have had more time, he would have definitely made it to the big leagues because of his work ethic.

Yeah.

So in the book, you used a Greek word to describe the life we're meant to live.

How did you come upon that word and why did you find it so powerful?

Oh my Lord.

Man.

So how did A.J.

Brown come about reading the book?

Was it...

referred to him from someone?

And the rest is history.

That's what I'm saying is this was the inflection point that brought this whole movement to awareness.

And sometimes I think that's what it takes is you just have this divine intervention and then all of a sudden it gives you that lightning rod to impact so many people, which your book is now doing.

So throughout the book, something I liked is you have all these different stories.

And one of them is you write about Joe Ehrman's shift from a win it all cost mentality to building a life built on relationships and purpose.