John R. Miles

So in the book, you used a Greek word to describe the life we're meant to live.

How did you come upon that word and why did you find it so powerful?

Oh my Lord.

Man.

So how did A.J.

Brown come about reading the book?

Was it...

referred to him from someone?

And the rest is history.

That's what I'm saying is this was the inflection point that brought this whole movement to awareness.

And sometimes I think that's what it takes is you just have this divine intervention and then all of a sudden it gives you that lightning rod to impact so many people, which your book is now doing.

So throughout the book, something I liked is you have all these different stories.

And one of them is you write about Joe Ehrman's shift from a win it all cost mentality to building a life built on relationships and purpose.

And it was interesting because you use Joe's story as the entry point, but then you talk about coaches like Wooden and Steve Golden State Warriors coach and others who you bring up that it's not Lou Holtz was another one.

It's not about at all about win at all costs mentality.

The wins will come, but that shouldn't be the focus yet.

For so many of us, we have a win at all costs mentality.

We want success in life more than anything.

I had this happen to me myself.

I felt the most invisible in my life I've ever felt because I was chasing all the wrong things and neglecting the things in life that count the most.