John Regalado

But, you know, these diverse players with diverse skills that are complementary, but they're fundamentally very different kinds of players.

Yeah.

But this is where I, you know, I'm sorry to put so much pressure on you.

You are like a purple-minded voter.

You're exactly the kind of person that we want to be voting because you're not going to, you know, vote party line.

So I appreciate everything you said here because I think these are all great ideas.

My only thing is you got to be, we need you.

And obviously we would need millions of you.

to guarantee a certain kind of shift in our political climate.

But this is exactly the kind of thinking I have an appetite for.

So it's great to hear these things from you, but I would beg you to vote and find a way to convince everyone else like you to also vote without this party deferential allegiance.

It's really refreshing to engage with people who are so independent-minded.

I really hope that'll become in vogue.

And hopefully we'll see that person where both

we have that itch for or that longing for to come in and change the tone of politics, maybe they're around the corner.

I am here with Krista.

Krista, welcome to the Surrounded follow-up.

So first things first, what was it like sitting face-to-face with James Tallarico for Surrounded?

I'm going to play you the first clip, which was from your initial interaction with him.

And his claim was, America is divided, but it's divided by top and bottom, not left and right.