John Regalado

The algorithm then discovered on its own in a certain way that harnessing outrage or feeding people more content, that kind of, uh,

aggravated their political sensibilities was the best way to achieve that.

So sort of an unintended consequence.

Something I'm curious about from you, you know, after sitting across from Tallarico, did he win you over?

Do you consider yourself a vote for him after this experience?

Or were you already, you know, decided going into this?

I'm curious.

He called you back to the center.

What was it like to be the one chosen?

I'm going to play you back a clip where you kind of lay out your claim and his initial response to it.

Did you feel like James changed your mind a little bit on your claim?

He makes the case there that incremental progress had actually occurred and is possible on this issue.

His claim was that it almost passed.

Right.

Why is this issue so close to your heart?

Is it just because you've witnessed so many mass shootings occur in the news?

I don't mean to downplay.

I mean, they are terrible things to hear about.

I share that with you.

But I'm just curious why it's close to you.