Can Talarico Turn Texas Blue? | James Talarico vs 20 Undecided Voters Surrounded Follow-Up
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What are the main concerns about political disillusionment?
I think I'm fed up and disengaged because I'm tired of the excuse that that person's a head, so I get to be a head. Yeah. And I kind of wish there was a group that we could get behind and say, you know what? We are not supporting either of you until one of you acts like an adult.
What is it gonna take? I mean, I own a gun myself. I'm all for gun safety. It's like, how many kids are gonna have to die in schools for there to be some kind of change?
So I'm here with Dan from the James Tallarico Surrounded. Welcome back to the Jubilee Universe. And thanks for doing this follow-up.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
So you were probably... Maybe one of the more contentious participants in James's episode, you gave him some pushback, but it wasn't coming from a place of like political opposition as much as maybe political disillusionment. Does that sound accurate to you?
I think that's fair. Also a desire to see more engagement, more – try and get to the depth of some of the issues. Oftentimes, especially in these kind of platforms, they get cut into little bits and pieces and sometimes that dictates how people responded. And so definitely not from a place of malicious or even – strongly disagreeing with them necessarily, more from a place of let's dive deeper into these issues and see if we can get to some where we actually disagree.
Totally. And you were like, give me specifics. What are you going to do? I've been hearing the same thing for over and over and over. Before we kind of dive into those arguments, because I want to play those back and we can jump into those, could I get a little bit more of a sense of what is your history? What's kind of your past political affiliation or identity or experiences leading up to where you are now?
I haven't been politically involved. And for me, it's much more of an intellectual curiosity. So I've never voted, had plenty of arguments with older friends on that. And my involvement in the community has been much more oriented around volunteering in individual relationships. And so particularly in college, I say conservatively, I was much more conservative leaning in a political aspect, but was very liberal leaning in a lot of my behavior. So I did a lot of volunteering, probably over 3,000 hours of volunteering. in college. It was something I was so passionate about and played around with a lot of ideas that I see coming up on the left now.
How do billionaires influence political polarization?
But I've really evolved over time and really tried to challenge myself on issues. So example is abortion is one where I've evolved a lot. And so if you had asked me when I was young and in college, I would have said it's absolutely murder. And in fact, in leaning into the natural repercussions of that, at one point I legitimately started to ask myself, do I really believe abortion is murder? Why would I not go and... take action against an abortion clinic and i and i started to ask myself that and start to lean into that and and what i found is why do i believe it's murder um with a lot of a christian background i know we quote a lot of times uh certain bible verses such as uh i knew you in your womb and informed you and i just realized i didn't find a compelling argument
And so don't want to dive too deep into that, but there's a lot of issues where I've started out one way and I've realized whether or not a group I necessarily associate with agrees with that. I've started to move in a different direction, just try and take issues one by one rather than as a group.
Yeah. What led you to wanting to speak to James? You know, obviously Jubilee might have just reached out to you, but were you drawn to this? Was there some kind of larger pull to speaking with him face to face?
You know, Jubilee doesn't tell you who you're going to speak with. So I didn't have a specific desire to speak with James. But I would say the engagement was I got there by watching, so I watch a lot of Jubilee videos and then I watch a lot of everything from Megyn Kelly to Young Turks and try and really get kind of a
That's the chasm.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the main concerns about political disillusionment?
0:00–2:56
2
How do billionaires influence political polarization?
2:56–6:09
3
What is the significance of voting in today's political climate?
6:09–8:50
4
How has the guest's political identity evolved over time?
8:50–14:35
5
What specific changes does Tallarico propose for Texas?
14:35–24:20
6
How do personal experiences shape views on gun control?
24:20–27:55
7
What arguments are made regarding the effectiveness of voting?
27:55–33:37
8
What is the impact of community engagement versus voting?
33:37–53:15
Speakers
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