John Shannon

And Rogers, I think, paid the big dollars with the expectation of being able to sell certain nights of the week off, Mondays and Wednesdays.

Um, but people that are in the negotiations with Rogers have said, yeah, we're interested in Mondays and we're interested in Wednesdays, but you know, we break even on the regular season, which is true.

You break even in, in, in the regular season and where you really make your money is in the playoffs.

And so everybody, everybody's at the negotiating table saying, great, we'll do a deal for the regular season, but you got to give us some playoff games.

And there has been pushback on that side that there's no, right now there's no playoff

games available.

Rogers wants all the games for their networks.

And the other thing that hasn't been mentioned very much, Bob, and I don't really have an answer for it because I think it's a big question, is what role does the CBC have

as of next year are they part of saturday night hockey still um you know 12 years ago part of the compromise with the national hockey league was that hockey night in canada would still exist as some sort of an entity even though rogers owned it even though rogers produced it it still existed on the cbc i don't know and and i'm not being flippant uh i don't know

if and when that deal expires and will it be renewed?

Because the CBC doesn't really make any money off of it.

They get promotional rights within the show, three or four minutes of promotions for all their other programming.

And when the original deal opened up, Bob, I don't know if you remember, but we all, as Rogers employees, we all worked at the CBC.

Three years ago, all those people got moved out of the CBC building.

So I don't know whether the CBC is part of the future either.

So that's another piece of that 12-year deal for $7.7 U.S.

billion that has to be worked out in the next three or four months.

Yeah, so that's about, what, $600 million U.S.

Like, I mean, I'm not saying anything without saying anything, John.

But the CBC doesn't, the CBC did not pay a rights fee to Rogers for games.