John Siracusa

Versus the M3, I guess.

I forget if this one, well, we don't know because this is the new, I don't know if the process is the same M3 whatever as the M5 because it is the chiplet.

thing is it just the packaging different or are they actually on i don't i don't actually know i don't know if there if there is like an n3 letter that i don't know that it applies to the chip thing but anyway we'll see when they cut the die uh thing off them but yeah i i think the the the process shrink isn't coming until the m6 generation

not not like to two nanometer obviously these are all three nanometer i'm just saying is it n n3p versus right whatever um but we'll see because they do they didn't go from four to ten of these so i bet they're still pretty small um and who knows if my theory about them being bulked up to to be good for the majority of tests is correct it could be that they were already the best for the majority of tests and they just learned that by like load you know seeing real world usage on the m4s

Again, we'll see when someone slices these chips open and they'll map out like here are the different cores and we can just physically measure them.

Do they look about the same size as the old efficiency cores?

Are they a little bigger?

How much bigger?

Also, there may be improvements in parts of the efficiency cores that can be turned off.

As you said, there's clock throttling and everything, but like...

You know, as we see, the specs say the performance is better.

The battery specs say that this performs about the same as the M4 one.

So I'm optimistic that I mean, it's not going to it's not going to be a big, impressive thing.

This is just like a transitional phase of like we have a new tech for building ships.

Can we do that tech transition at the same time as maintaining our normal year over year improvements?

while also doing this complete inversion of the ratio of our big cores to our little cores.

And according to everything Apple has released, they're basically saying they've done it.

We'll wait to see what the benchmarks are.

All right, the GPU is either... Actually, you skipped the 18-core one, because this is the interesting thing.

Oh, sorry.