John Siracusa

You like the glassy digits?

I was going to say like, why doesn't it have a dot next to it, but you have the titles hidden on your eye.

I think it was when it got wider, not just taller.

And by the way, the Sony's also have a coiled one.

Especially if you have snow covering the panels.

How do you spell the name of the company?

It's a consumable.

It's going to rot out anyway in a few years.

If your water heater is in there, that's probably rotted out and has just failed.

Well, the fanciest ones actually stop the water.

The less fancy ones turn a valve that you already have that stops the water.

Those are still a couple hundred dollars.

That's the $300 one.

Yeah, exactly.

The very fancy ones literally have the valve inside them and will turn off the water.

It's a little bit difficult to explain, but we were kind of musing on a world without Apple in a couple of different hypothetical scenarios.

In the beginning, we tried to explain, well, why are we talking about this topic now?

You know, is this a declaration that we're abandoning Apple?

No, that's not what it is.

um we did a couple hypotheticals like what if apple had never existed alternate history type of thing or what if apple at some point in our future when we're still alive ceases to exist and we're exploring where what would we do in terms of tech what you know what platforms would we use what things would we miss what things would be looking for we're looking for and obviously in that discussion we inevitably end up talking about our history and how we got where we are especially since both marco and casey are uh