John Siracusa

And so I...

I don't think that new is necessarily bad.

Where it becomes frustrating to me, and this is not a particularly hot take, is new for the sake of new.

And I think Michael is touching on that.

New features needed to keep up with the industry.

Well, a great example of that is let's AI all the things.

And I think there's appropriate times for AI and there's inappropriate times for AI.

And do I really need what, I don't even remember what the stupid thing is called.

It was like something playground.

What's the, the image playground.

I couldn't even remember the darn thing.

Cause I've used it like twice, but it's here.

But it's here, baby.

Yep, exactly.

So you see where I'm going with this, right, is that I don't think adding just because you're keeping up with the Joneses is necessarily the right idea.

And Apple in the past had usually been very good about, yes, that's wonderful for you, but we don't need that.

It's not additive for our users.

It's not helpful for our users.

So I'm kind of meandering around the question rather than answering it because I think every...

Decision would be different.