John Siracusa

Many, many Android phones have had a camera bar for ages now, and they all do different treatments. There are ways to do this, so it looks reasonable. But boy, the 16E... the back of that phone looks so nice with just the one camera. Now, you know, and that's cost savings, makes sense.

Many, many Android phones have had a camera bar for ages now, and they all do different treatments. There are ways to do this, so it looks reasonable. But boy, the 16E... the back of that phone looks so nice with just the one camera. Now, you know, and that's cost savings, makes sense.

The benefits you get from it is maybe you get a little bit more room for battery in there, which gives you better battery life. Like thinking of what this thing has to recommend that is like, if you don't care about the fanciest of the fancy specs, if one camera is plenty for you, here's a pretty good phone.

The benefits you get from it is maybe you get a little bit more room for battery in there, which gives you better battery life. Like thinking of what this thing has to recommend that is like, if you don't care about the fanciest of the fancy specs, if one camera is plenty for you, here's a pretty good phone.

And by the way, you get even better battery life than the expensive one because you don't have the extra cameras, the extra GPU for core in there, right? But the other compromise is the lack of MagSafe, the potential lack of multi-wideband. Like, I would have sacrificed the SOC number. I would go with a 17 Pro or something in exchange for getting back MagSafe. Like, you don't need an A18 for it.

And by the way, you get even better battery life than the expensive one because you don't have the extra cameras, the extra GPU for core in there, right? But the other compromise is the lack of MagSafe, the potential lack of multi-wideband. Like, I would have sacrificed the SOC number. I would go with a 17 Pro or something in exchange for getting back MagSafe. Like, you don't need an A18 for it.

I know they did it for Apple Intelligence. Like, I understand why it's the way it is, but, like... What do people who buy the cheapest iPhone... Will they care about Apple Intelligence, for that matter? Apple cares about it. Or the A18-ness or any of that stuff versus caring about MagSafe? I think for the people who want MagSafe...

I know they did it for Apple Intelligence. Like, I understand why it's the way it is, but, like... What do people who buy the cheapest iPhone... Will they care about Apple Intelligence, for that matter? Apple cares about it. Or the A18-ness or any of that stuff versus caring about MagSafe? I think for the people who want MagSafe...

That feature makes so much more difference in their life than the neural engine that's going to allow them to use the Apple intelligence, right? We're in another transition period where everyone's getting 8 gigs of RAM, which is good, by the way, this is 8 gigs of RAM.

That feature makes so much more difference in their life than the neural engine that's going to allow them to use the Apple intelligence, right? We're in another transition period where everyone's getting 8 gigs of RAM, which is good, by the way, this is 8 gigs of RAM.

Like, that's a thumbs up and everything, but practically speaking, like, first of all, I don't know how much money you would even save on that because the SoC is not the most expensive thing in this, and Apple makes them themselves, so it's pretty cheap.

Like, that's a thumbs up and everything, but practically speaking, like, first of all, I don't know how much money you would even save on that because the SoC is not the most expensive thing in this, and Apple makes them themselves, so it's pretty cheap.

But, like, if I had to design what is the feature set that you actually want to put in the lowest-end iPhone, I would probably sacrifice RAM, Apple Intelligence, and the SoC if I could get back the Ultra Wideband and MagSafe because I just feel like that's in the baseline. And, I mean, again, Apple wants Apple Intelligence to be in the baseline, but just I don't think that's –

But, like, if I had to design what is the feature set that you actually want to put in the lowest-end iPhone, I would probably sacrifice RAM, Apple Intelligence, and the SoC if I could get back the Ultra Wideband and MagSafe because I just feel like that's in the baseline. And, I mean, again, Apple wants Apple Intelligence to be in the baseline, but just I don't think that's –

i don't i don't think that's an important feature for pretty much anybody using these phones let alone the cheapest one so yeah and this and this you know to get the hard numbers in this the previous se at 128 gigs of uh storage was 480 bucks and this one is 600 um and you know it's a big spec bump or whatever but then of course apple storage prices mean that if you spec this thing the s the 16e all up to 512 now it's a 900 phone

i don't i don't think that's an important feature for pretty much anybody using these phones let alone the cheapest one so yeah and this and this you know to get the hard numbers in this the previous se at 128 gigs of uh storage was 480 bucks and this one is 600 um and you know it's a big spec bump or whatever but then of course apple storage prices mean that if you spec this thing the s the 16e all up to 512 now it's a 900 phone

So you're going to sell me a $900 iPhone 16 something that doesn't have MagSafe? No thanks.

So you're going to sell me a $900 iPhone 16 something that doesn't have MagSafe? No thanks.

Yeah, no, I get it. Like, I understand how it's not going to happen, right? And I thank them for the RAM.

Yeah, no, I get it. Like, I understand how it's not going to happen, right? And I thank them for the RAM.