John Siracusa

Was he the person who said, hey... See, you keep forgetting his first name.

Oh, John LeMay.

Everything should be John, not a Stephen Stephen.

Like, was he the one who said, there's a bunch of great designers out there who love our platform.

Can we go hire some of them?

maybe like throw money at them like it's like the ai problem except for with what was supposed to be apple's core competency right let's go get some good people everyone and johnny i've seen left to go to open ai right everyone you know who's not good like all these rumors of like just brain drained from apple people either get rich and leave apple and go do something else or they build their skills at apple and decide to go elsewhere or they get more money somewhere like

If ever Apple is going to overpay people to come back to the company to fix things, it would be, we're having problems in design.

Let's hire some good designers.

And, you know, I mean, we have Steve LeMay, whose name we can't remember, and Sebastian DeWitt, whose name I can't pronounce.

So it's two people.

It's two people that we know about, but like...

Things seem to be moving in the right direction.

Obviously, we won't see the results of any of the stuff for a long time, so jury's still out, but this is encouraging news.

And yes, Marco did hoist up the Halide developer hiring up to the top, but there's a little bit more to the story.

Yeah, so that's an interesting breakdown of, like, who that is not technically in charge of design has influence.

And it makes sense that, like, you know, Ternus would, because he's the hardware guy, would be able to give his two cents on any hardware design stuff.

And Federighi, being in charge of software, would have his opinions about software.

And then Joswiak, because he's marketing, would say, you know, I want everything to be teddy bears because people love teddy bears, right?

It doesn't seem like, you know.

That doesn't sound like him.