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John Siracusa

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Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

So this was a solution to last week's complaint where they were saying some people had some problems with test flight. And the document said, oh, if you have test flights, you have to just stop them on one account and start them on another. And I had said that Icon Factory had reported that they tried to do that and it didn't work.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

So this was a solution to last week's complaint where they were saying some people had some problems with test flight. And the document said, oh, if you have test flights, you have to just stop them on one account and start them on another. And I had said that Icon Factory had reported that they tried to do that and it didn't work.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Apple solution, change the instructions that say, yeah, you just can't do it if you have test flights.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Apple solution, change the instructions that say, yeah, you just can't do it if you have test flights.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

previously they said you could do it and it's really easy after you do it you can just remove the test flight from the old address and put in the new one but that doesn't work and so they didn't I don't know are they ever going to fix that or are they just going to say let's just add one more restriction to the pile if you have anything to do with test flight nope don't do it you got to get off test flights before you do it which I'm sure makes their life easier but the number of restrictions that are required and the number of steps like another thing you should look at in these documents is the number of things they suggest doing before you do the migration is very long

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

previously they said you could do it and it's really easy after you do it you can just remove the test flight from the old address and put in the new one but that doesn't work and so they didn't I don't know are they ever going to fix that or are they just going to say let's just add one more restriction to the pile if you have anything to do with test flight nope don't do it you got to get off test flights before you do it which I'm sure makes their life easier but the number of restrictions that are required and the number of steps like another thing you should look at in these documents is the number of things they suggest doing before you do the migration is very long

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Like sign out of everything. Don't be renting any movies. Undo all these things like just like just it's very it seems very complicated and very fraught. And I really wonder how many people fall into the narrow alleyway that is left. If you fulfill all the requirements and do all the things, what percentage of Apple's customers can use this feature?

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Like sign out of everything. Don't be renting any movies. Undo all these things like just like just it's very it seems very complicated and very fraught. And I really wonder how many people fall into the narrow alleyway that is left. If you fulfill all the requirements and do all the things, what percentage of Apple's customers can use this feature?

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

I put that quote in there because you can, if anyone who knows Stephen Hackett can just hear him saying my word.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

I put that quote in there because you can, if anyone who knows Stephen Hackett can just hear him saying my word.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Yeah, this is an interesting angle on this that I heard. It's essentially passing a U.S. law that makes it impossible for Apple to comply because if they complied with the U.K. law, they would now be in violation of the U.S. law and hoping that Apple will decide that, you know, trying to secretly run afoul of a newly created U.S. law is a worse situation.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Yeah, this is an interesting angle on this that I heard. It's essentially passing a U.S. law that makes it impossible for Apple to comply because if they complied with the U.K. law, they would now be in violation of the U.S. law and hoping that Apple will decide that, you know, trying to secretly run afoul of a newly created U.S. law is a worse situation.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

And so Apple wouldn't be faced with the idea of, like, where Apple has to, like... you know, disobey UK law, like of their own volition, they'd be like, we literally can't do this because the US laws, they were a subject to say that we can't. And now I'm not a lawyer. I don't know about this whole conflict of law situation, so on and so forth.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

And so Apple wouldn't be faced with the idea of, like, where Apple has to, like... you know, disobey UK law, like of their own volition, they'd be like, we literally can't do this because the US laws, they were a subject to say that we can't. And now I'm not a lawyer. I don't know about this whole conflict of law situation, so on and so forth.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

But it seems like a good thing to do to like essentially not rely on Apple doing the right thing, right? Which increasingly is a good thing to do. So instead, make it impossible for them to do the thing, for Apple to do the thing that we don't want them to do. Take it out of their hands. If we had a functioning lawmaking body, this would be a thing that would be good to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

But it seems like a good thing to do to like essentially not rely on Apple doing the right thing, right? Which increasingly is a good thing to do. So instead, make it impossible for them to do the thing, for Apple to do the thing that we don't want them to do. Take it out of their hands. If we had a functioning lawmaking body, this would be a thing that would be good to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Although I saw some other feedback I didn't put in here saying that there really is no way around this. There's nothing they can do to appeal or change it. The only thing that can help with this is the UK deciding they don't want to enforce this in this particular way against Apple. But this is all happening in secret, so we really don't know what's going on.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Although I saw some other feedback I didn't put in here saying that there really is no way around this. There's nothing they can do to appeal or change it. The only thing that can help with this is the UK deciding they don't want to enforce this in this particular way against Apple. But this is all happening in secret, so we really don't know what's going on.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Fingers crossed that this resolves itself in some sane way and fingers crossed that we hear about how it's resolved rather than just never hearing anything about the story again and not knowing what the heck has happened.

Accidental Tech Podcast
627: Dragged Across the Line

Fingers crossed that this resolves itself in some sane way and fingers crossed that we hear about how it's resolved rather than just never hearing anything about the story again and not knowing what the heck has happened.