John Siracusa

Yeah, I mean, I guess I hadn't mused about what the C1, what letter would be on that. But C for cellular makes sense, right?

Yeah, I mean, I guess I hadn't mused about what the C1, what letter would be on that. But C for cellular makes sense, right?

17.

17.

Yeah, so the line they gave about it in the video, which Casey just quoted here, is this is what they're touting for, like, why do you care that Apple, that cell modem is from Apple? If you don't listen to ATP and haven't heard us talk about this for the past five years, why do you care? The most power-efficient modem ever in an iPhone. This...

Yeah, so the line they gave about it in the video, which Casey just quoted here, is this is what they're touting for, like, why do you care that Apple, that cell modem is from Apple? If you don't listen to ATP and haven't heard us talk about this for the past five years, why do you care? The most power-efficient modem ever in an iPhone. This...

This cellular chip uses less power than any cellular chip we've ever put in an iPhone and, you know, less power, longer battery life. We get the battery life in a little bit. So that's the pitch for this. You know, it's good. It's good for you, the consumer, that Apple is making this because we give you more battery life, which is, you know, a good pitch.

This cellular chip uses less power than any cellular chip we've ever put in an iPhone and, you know, less power, longer battery life. We get the battery life in a little bit. So that's the pitch for this. You know, it's good. It's good for you, the consumer, that Apple is making this because we give you more battery life, which is, you know, a good pitch.

part of the reason they're not pitching much more is because well this is the i was gonna say this is the iphone se well just whatever this is the the 16e i guess the e is for economy all right it's the cheaper phone uh but that means it's not the flagship and so as as rumored um no millimeter wave right it's one of the their first round of you know apple's first selling chip is not going to have millimeter wave it's going to go on the se first as a test bed so you don't ruin your flagship phones this is not a flagship cell modem chip it doesn't have the

part of the reason they're not pitching much more is because well this is the i was gonna say this is the iphone se well just whatever this is the the 16e i guess the e is for economy all right it's the cheaper phone uh but that means it's not the flagship and so as as rumored um no millimeter wave right it's one of the their first round of you know apple's first selling chip is not going to have millimeter wave it's going to go on the se first as a test bed so you don't ruin your flagship phones this is not a flagship cell modem chip it doesn't have the

fanciest of the fanciest, cutting-edge, fastest of the fastest feature that Casey uses from his picnic table. No millimeter wave at all. They have on the spec page of like, what cellular capabilities does this have? And there is just such an incredible alphabet soup of numbers and letters there. I had to textually diff it against the 16 Pro

fanciest of the fanciest, cutting-edge, fastest of the fastest feature that Casey uses from his picnic table. No millimeter wave at all. They have on the spec page of like, what cellular capabilities does this have? And there is just such an incredible alphabet soup of numbers and letters there. I had to textually diff it against the 16 Pro

to confirm that there's no millimeter wave because i didn't know how how millimeter wave would be represented and if you do that textual diff you'll see there's other like bands that are different between them it says 5g nr bands n1 n2 n3 n5 n7 and just goes on up to like n79 Then it says FTD, LTE, bandswap.

to confirm that there's no millimeter wave because i didn't know how how millimeter wave would be represented and if you do that textual diff you'll see there's other like bands that are different between them it says 5g nr bands n1 n2 n3 n5 n7 and just goes on up to like n79 Then it says FTD, LTE, bandswap.

These are all very complicated cellular stuff that I do not understand, but they list them all. And so if you diff them against the 16 Pro, you can see there are differences. And by the way, they list them by saying model A3212, asterisk, and then they list all the things. And they say all models and they list some more stuff.

These are all very complicated cellular stuff that I do not understand, but they list them all. And so if you diff them against the 16 Pro, you can see there are differences. And by the way, they list them by saying model A3212, asterisk, and then they list all the things. And they say all models and they list some more stuff.

The 16 Pro has multiple Model A something something things because they sell different versions of these in different parts of the world. And then there's a little support document saying, how can I tell if I have Model A3212? Which is weird on the 16E because I think there's only one model. I think there's only the A3212. There's no second line. But anyway, cellular is incredibly complicated.

The 16 Pro has multiple Model A something something things because they sell different versions of these in different parts of the world. And then there's a little support document saying, how can I tell if I have Model A3212? Which is weird on the 16E because I think there's only one model. I think there's only the A3212. There's no second line. But anyway, cellular is incredibly complicated.

Even just in the US, it's complicated with all the different kinds of networks. And so just glancing at what the C1 supports, it's not entirely clear.

Even just in the US, it's complicated with all the different kinds of networks. And so just glancing at what the C1 supports, it's not entirely clear.