John Smith

And I loved writing that show, but it was a very dark show. It was a very dark show. And coming out of that, I really wanted to try to figure out if there was a way to sort of have a... a less wrenching conversation only because, you know, it can be hard to watch. Like there's torture in that show.

There's, you know, people rightly losing their minds over the questions that they're dealing with, which is not dishonest, but it's a hard place to visit. You know, it's funny you put it that way. It was a little more...

There's, you know, people rightly losing their minds over the questions that they're dealing with, which is not dishonest, but it's a hard place to visit. You know, it's funny you put it that way. It was a little more...

There's, you know, people rightly losing their minds over the questions that they're dealing with, which is not dishonest, but it's a hard place to visit. You know, it's funny you put it that way. It was a little more...

I had more criminal cases, murder cases, than I could ever, ever, ever deal with. And in fact, I reached a point I wouldn't take anymore.

I had more criminal cases, murder cases, than I could ever, ever, ever deal with. And in fact, I reached a point I wouldn't take anymore.

I guess in 2020, I think.

I guess in 2020, I think.

I guess in 2020, I think.

Before. The first... I was hired by Netflix to write a pilot. And I got this idea to try and interview a woman that had been an expert consultant on Homeland, a woman named Beth Jones, who was a diplomat for decades and is amazing. She keeps trying to retire and pull her back in. And...

Before. The first... I was hired by Netflix to write a pilot. And I got this idea to try and interview a woman that had been an expert consultant on Homeland, a woman named Beth Jones, who was a diplomat for decades and is amazing. She keeps trying to retire and pull her back in. And...

Before. The first... I was hired by Netflix to write a pilot. And I got this idea to try and interview a woman that had been an expert consultant on Homeland, a woman named Beth Jones, who was a diplomat for decades and is amazing. She keeps trying to retire and pull her back in. And...

I decided I wanted to interview her and set up a time we were going to go meet and have lunch in Washington, D.C. at the restaurant called Le Diplomate. And.

I decided I wanted to interview her and set up a time we were going to go meet and have lunch in Washington, D.C. at the restaurant called Le Diplomate. And.

I decided I wanted to interview her and set up a time we were going to go meet and have lunch in Washington, D.C. at the restaurant called Le Diplomate. And.

Well, good. Yeah. And then we had to cancel it because there was like this weird flu going around. So that was so I guess it must have been March. of 2019.

Well, good. Yeah. And then we had to cancel it because there was like this weird flu going around. So that was so I guess it must have been March. of 2019.

Well, good. Yeah. And then we had to cancel it because there was like this weird flu going around. So that was so I guess it must have been March. of 2019.

And it was also a good time to talk to, I was like, this is gonna be a disaster. I can't go to Washington and sit in a room with people. And that was true on a certain level, but there was also the level of like, you could get Tony Blinken on the phone.

And it was also a good time to talk to, I was like, this is gonna be a disaster. I can't go to Washington and sit in a room with people. And that was true on a certain level, but there was also the level of like, you could get Tony Blinken on the phone.