John Smith

I can't see the Labour Party adopting these policies.

But some of the things he said that were kind of a headwind

on the UK economy that this government had introduced.

I'm not sure that's neoliberalism.

I think it's just a statement of fact that some of the things that we're doing are adding costs to business, making it harder for companies to employ.

And that is not the way.

If economic growth is the way we're going to lift living standards, it's the way we're going to transform people's lives, then I think there were a number of points in that essay that were well made.

Yes.

I mean, Blair had a pledge card and, you know, all the rest of it.

But I think that the Mandani comparison is just, you know, do people want cheap energy right now?

Yeah, they probably do, actually.

And I think that, you know, there's nothing cheaper than renewable.

But when you've still got fossil fuels, fossil fuel in the ground, which is there to be exploited.

And you wouldn't exploit it?

Look, Tony Blair has immense intellectual self-confidence that often teeters on the edge of being messianic about, I am so convinced I'm right.

I'm not even entertaining the possibility that I'm wrong.

Just suck it up.

Believe me, whether it's globalization, whether it's AI, I know what I'm talking about.

And this is what we have to do.

And I think that I agree that that is a weakness.