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John Stepek

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Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

It's been a problem.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

And so the market has turned into, over the last couple of decades, something from which investors extract money from companies being bought out by private equity.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

You take your cash and you run from dividend payments, from buybacks, huge rise in buybacks across all markets, particularly in the U.S., right?

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

And you can argue, and lots of people do, and it's hard to quantify, but that shrinkage of supply has been one of the drivers behind the bull market for the last many years, right?

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

You take out supply, demand stays the same or goes up and up and up with auto-enrollment and 401ks.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

What do you expect?

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

You expect a bull market.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Yeah, absolutely.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

I mean, it's entirely logical.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

It's just that nobody thinks about it because it's so abstract.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Yeah.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

But actually, you know, it's like if suddenly there were like half the number of apples at your supermarket, the price would go up.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Yeah, apples would be more expensive.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Yeah, and it's not because the apples are any better, there's just fewer of them.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Okay, and so...

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

Look at what's happening now.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

We talked about this last week a bit, but we've got these huge IPOs.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

SpaceX, I'll find out very soon how many shares I have been allocated in SpaceX.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic, and these are huge.

Merryn Talks Money
Are Public Markets Back?

We're into hundreds of billions with these guys.