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John Stepek

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Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

No, I think that, actually, I was looking at kind of markets this week, so the UK particularly.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And something I noticed was there was a couple of kind of significant sort of profit warnings.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And one was from Chris Nicholson, which is a house builder.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And basically last month they said it looked as if things were fine.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And, you know, the end of last month, so the war had been, you know, running for about a month.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And they said it's basically okay, you don't need to worry.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And then this month they came out with a trading update that basically said well actually no, things have actually turned down quite a bit and now it doesn't look as if we're going to sell any land this year and also our profit is going to be much lower than we expected because we're going to have to rein everything in.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And the share price fell something like 35% in the day.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And then you had big consumer goods group, Reckitt Benckiser, they came out and their share price has been falling since February, but on the day they fell by another 5% because they said the disruption in the Middle East

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

has hit our sales, like for like sales are much lower than they expected and I think what this kind of drives home is that the market is now at the point where it can't really put a price on stuff until it starts to see the impact coming through and I think that's the problem we sort of sit there and like it's so reflexive it's like we look at the prices and we say well the market's not reacting so it can't be that bad but the market is waiting to get data from the real world because

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

It's kind of like, well, you know, how do we know what's going to happen next?

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

There is no way to put a price on it.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

So I think we're just going to keep seeing this as the bad data feeds through.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

Maybe some of the kind of impacts that we thought we were going to see earlier on will start to happen because basically you need a kind of prove it moment, particularly because everyone's got conditioned.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

Well, I guess it ties in with this overall thing that, you know, whatever, the 2010s were like the long duration decade.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

Basically, time didn't matter.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

And that was partly tied up with interest rates.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

But, you know, the kind of far future, if you were going to make a load of money in the far future, that was worth as much as making a load of money tomorrow.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

So you bought the companies that were going to make a load of money in the far future because the future seemed predictable.

Merryn Talks Money
Markets in a Permanent Mini-Crisis: Why Investors Are Waiting, Not Predicting

Because I think the predictability horizon of the world generally has shrunk to,