Johnny Warström

So compared to, we lose, of course, customers every year.

Well, monthly is about one to one and a half percent.

Because we want to have it like finger to the rail.

Because we have annual contracts, because we prepay that, it's so important for us to anyway look at the monthly churn because that's more... But how do people churn?

It's normally like this, that you sign up for the yearly, but you're sure that you don't want to use it in a year's time.

You don't want it to be renewed.

So you cancel after two months.

Then we deduct ARR.

You don't get money back because we have a refund, like 40 days full refund, but you don't get money back part of the year.

like almost none i think we have like one a month or something something and something happened and we also had to always have the benefit of the doubt normally it's the infrastructure of the of the event space or your your computer or whatever but if they had a bad experience with ventimeter we're happy to pay it back because there's no money for us and happy customers are worth much more

right yeah yeah so you don't know about eurovision song contests i don't but tell me about it no it's a big european event i think it's a biggest it's bigger than superbowl like superbowl is the second i think eurovision song contest is the biggest air live event in the world so it's a big contest between the

So every country in Europe contributes with a song and I'm a big fan of this.

It's a yearly event and we actually have a built-in voting module that simulates that you are part of the Eurovision Song Contest that you can bring home to your sofa and test it out.

Yeah, and vote.

And that's an extremely weird thing.

We got a lot of attention over two years ago.

And actually, news and PR people called me when it's time for Sweden's version of the Eurovision contest to hear what I have to comment on it.

So I'm kind of becoming a guru in the Eurovision Song Contest context because we did this fun thing for... And the goal, of course, growth because it's a very big event, but it kind of generates a lot of buzz around the company.

2.3.

0.8, I think, 0.8.