Jojo Moyes

Why are women so bad at doing things for ourselves?

So when I moved to London, I took up Pilates, which I know makes me an absolute North London cliche, but I really loved it.

And I've always loved horses, but I used to do what my husband called hacking and yakking, which was just getting lost in the woods and talking to my daughter or with a friend.

And so I took up classical dressage, which was really niche, really ridiculous, has no purpose in life beyond what it is.

So I started competing again, which was the first time I went to a competition.

I didn't sleep.

I think I was awake till 4 a.m.

And I think I won the first one.

It was only very low level competition.

And I really love it.

So I have lessons every week.

I go away to Portugal to train at a special place there.

And that has been an incredible thing for me.

I go by myself sometimes.

And it was so interesting.

You know, we talked about depression.

And I carried it over for a long time and in the mornings were my hardest times.

So I used to get up, walk the dogs, walk it off and then I'd be in a good place.

And I called John from the first time I stayed at this place in Portugal and I said, something really weird's happened.

And he said, what?