Jon Favreau

And like, it's a visceral reaction that I think, you know, like Jonathan Greenblatt will try to like scold me if I use the wrong words to try to prevent this conversation from happening.

But it's,

it's happening no matter what.

There are some people who argue that the Iron Dome...

It enables more militarism by the IDF because they know that they can repeatedly bomb a country like Iran and then just be protected from incoming fire.

I'm just sort of laying out the other side of that debate for listeners.

is my view i totally hear that look i i i think i'm really glad that jay street is part of this conversation and was lobbying senators to cut off certain types of u.s military i think the votes last week were what for 1 000 pound bombs and like armored bulldozers there's absolutely no reason the us needs to be providing those systems to israel especially given the context right now i think you're right we absolutely should not be giving a rich country four billion dollars a year

for no reason for military support.

By the way, money is fungible and that money can then be, they're using that to fund a universal healthcare system that a lot of people here would love to have.

And so I'm glad that like this conversation has become more nuanced and more rational and that people are less scared of getting like slapped down if you sort of

break from the APAC party line or orthodoxy going forward.

I do think the challenge the Democratic Party leaders are having is the base of the party, young people have moved way further, way faster than the Democratic elected officials have, even if Democratic Party elected officials have moved really, really fast, historically speaking on this issue.

Brutal.

Yeah.

For sure.

I think that's right.

Look, I think a normie voter, the most powerful, have not thought about this for one fucking second.

And the most powerful argument to them is going to be, let's stop spending money on wars or giving it to other countries and spend it at home.

And so that is really going to be the, people are going to have to sketch out thoughtful nuances of foreign policy because that kind of nationalist isolationist view is going to be the

the siren song politically that is incredibly powerful, that frankly works on me in a lot of instances and is, I think, something we all just have to keep in mind as we are seeped in this stuff and have more nuanced views that might not kind of get to the average voter on a random day.