Jon Favreau

And maybe sometimes we make a mistake when we kind of try to pull from history.

I think the average American's experience of what's happening in Israel right now, especially young people, if they started paying attention to politics a couple of years ago, they just see intolerable amounts of killing by Israel, first in Gaza, now in Lebanon and Iran.

and they're doing it with American weapons.

And then if you're my age, you've been kind of watching Netanyahu since 2009, sort of doing his best to prevent the Palestinian state from being created, coming to Congress to insult Barack Obama and try to blow up the Iran nuclear deal in 2015, and then just wrapping his arms around Donald Trump in the biggest kind of bear hug.

ever.

And so it's like, it's not that people have deeply held views about the origins of Zionism or because they're anti-Semitic.

They're just like, why is this really strong country bombing the shit out of Gaza over and over again?

And why are we giving them weapons to do it?

Why am I paying for that?

Right.

And they're just horrified by it.

And like, it's a visceral reaction that I think, you know, like Jonathan Greenblatt will try to like scold me if I use the wrong words to try to prevent this conversation from happening.

But it's,

it's happening no matter what.

There are some people who argue that the Iron Dome...

It enables more militarism by the IDF because they know that they can repeatedly bomb a country like Iran and then just be protected from incoming fire.

I'm just sort of laying out the other side of that debate for listeners.

is my view i totally hear that look i i i think i'm really glad that jay street is part of this conversation and was lobbying senators to cut off certain types of u.s military i think the votes last week were what for 1 000 pound bombs and like armored bulldozers there's absolutely no reason the us needs to be providing those systems to israel especially given the context right now i think you're right we absolutely should not be giving a rich country four billion dollars a year

for no reason for military support.

By the way, money is fungible and that money can then be, they're using that to fund a universal healthcare system that a lot of people here would love to have.