Jon Favreau

Thank you, I'm very flattered to be on it.

The cues we use to predict who's going to be a good leader are faulty.

Do I think that should be true of a presidential campaign?

No.

But I do think there is a way to restructure our elections where we do cast the net a lot wider.

And maybe at a local level, we should go with lotteries as a way of picking who our leaders should be.

I think there is something to that.

Well, my question would be, we've done a very good job, I think, in the last couple of months, focusing on what reform of police behavior in this country looks like, right?

Now I think it's time for us to turn the attention on ourselves.

What are the kinds of things we can do, non-police officers can do, to make the job of policing better in this country?

And I think that's the part we've neglected.

We make the police in this country deal with things like mental illness and homelessness.

Why?

Because we have radically underfunded the social support mechanisms for those two social problems.

The cops get that job by default.

It's a really hard job.

They are not trained to do it and they don't want to do it.

Right.

And so what we're doing is we've taken a group of people who already have an insanely difficult job.

We've made it a lot harder.