Chapter 1: What insights does Joe Rogan share about hosting Fear Factor?
You're listening to Comedy Central. Tonight's guest starred on Sports Night and Six Feet Under. Oh, I'm sorry.
News Radio. Now he's the host of NBC's reality series.
I can read. NBC's reality series, Fear Factor. Here's a little taste of that. Fear Factor. I'm Joe Rogan. Welcome to Fear Factor. The stunts you're about to see were designed and supervised by trained professionals. They are extremely dangerous. Do not attempt these stunts anywhere, anytime. So I should try them. Please welcome Joe Rogan.
Joe!
what's up what's up dude it's very nice to see you uh the last time i see you uh you're on the set of news radio you're having some fun uh then i turn around and you're pouring rats on uh well i wasn't pouring man i'm just hosting you're just you're just hosting who are these folks that are coming out to have uh rats bored on their heads regular folks who want to be on tv
Now, doesn't that make you sad? Does it? No, no, it makes me laugh. It does make you laugh a little bit, right? It makes me laugh a lot. Yeah, it really does. Afterwards, like the one that doesn't win, because I know they get some money, right? There's a lot that don't win. Five of them don't win. There's six people every week, and five people have to go home with nothing.
And what are they, like, as they're leaving, are they like, thanks for the T-shirt? Like, what do they say?
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Chapter 2: How did the hosts of Pod Save America transition from speechwriting to podcasting?
They think it's fun, you know? It's, look, everybody who does the show has a good time. They really do. Really? As ridiculous as it sounds, because they can't believe they're actually doing it. You know, I'm sure. Would you do it? Have you done any of the stuff? I would do almost everything. I would have done a lot of the crazy stunts.
They look like fun, but the insurance clause is the one that would do anything. What would you not have done? The insurance clause? They have a huge one. You guys have insurance? It's a huge waiver. It's like 42 pages long. Really? Oh, do we have insurance? Oh my God, it's ridiculous. I mean, you've seen some of the stunts.
So can you like, like on this show, I can pretty much be high every night. Like it doesn't matter. But for your show, is there, are there things that they have to do? Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure I couldn't be high. Let me ask you this, because I read, I haven't had a chance to see it. It looked like I was high when I was reading the warning though. Could I be any more wooden? That was menacing.
Chapter 3: What unique perspectives does Jameela Jamil bring to her podcast Bad Dates?
But that seriously, that was the most menacing disclaimer. That was one of those like- Well, that only came out after the jackass thing. They were going to have no disclaimer. And then like the kid burned himself. Like, oh my God. They just wanted to protect themselves against the tards. Like, everywhere you go. Whatever you do, put up a disclaimer. Wait, Joe, let me just get this straight.
You went, the kid burned himself, and then they were like, oh, we've got to worry about kids burning themselves. That's exactly how I did it. Here's what was read in the thing. These are the critics. You'll find this hilarious. Critics are my favorite people. Tom Shales, Washington Post says, a sickening exercise in cruelty and venality, rotten and despicable.
Wall Street Journal, the most depressing, nauseating, disgusting prime time series to date. And Joel Siegel, Good Morning America, thrill ride of the summer. Number one. Now, what do you do when you wake up the next day and you see that stuff? I laugh. First of all, they're critics. And anybody who sets out to become a critic is a loser. That is a fact. Critics are all failures.
No one wants to be a critic. They're failed authors and screenwriters. They are dodgeball victims. And that's why these people are writing these little scathing reviews. No one sets out to make their life's work to critique other people's chances.
Chapter 4: How does Malcolm Gladwell connect social justice themes with his podcast Revisionist History?
Those people are all p****. Every single one of them. Every one of them. That is a fact. Can I tell you what I feel bad about? What? Is I was a dodgeball loser.
Well, you know what, dude?
I'm trying to separate myself. There's two types of people in the world. People that were throwing and people that were ducking, all right? But you define yourself. No, there were other people. There were people getting hit in the face. I was getting hit in the face. Can you still see Spalding? Did you stand still? Didn't you try to duck? No, I didn't stand still. I was like one foot four.
What was I supposed to do?
When you attempt to duck, you're classified as a ducker, but they define you. I probably still owe you lunch money, even though I didn't go to school with you. Dude, I was not a lunch money taker. I threw the dodgeball, but I never took anybody's lunch money. I think that's wise. But this is fun for you. You're having a good time. It's fun.
And it really is fun for the people who do the show, honestly.
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Chapter 5: What philosophical insights does Ryan Holiday discuss on The Daily Stoic?
Right.
And they do give $50,000.
Somebody does. You don't think anybody's going to die from this thing? No, no, no, no. But by the time it gets to the stunt, when we pass the stunt people, it's been done so many times. It's like meticulously planned out. These guys coordinate everything like weeks and weeks and weeks in advance. The stunt guys test it and retest it.
They're not going to land anything that's any more dangerous than playing like a game of tag football. Seriously. Can I tell you how bad, honestly, I broke my collarbone playing tag football? You could hurt yourself in tag football. I was just going to tell you, though, that that idea about planning the show out, I'm going to try that. Because we so don't do that.
You should always try to plan things out. God damn it. It's good to see you, though. Good to see you, too, man. And you're having fun? You going to get back into the acting thing and do all that? If it's fun.
If it's fun.
Look, I'm a stand-up comedian. That's what I love to do. You're still doing that going around in trouble. Yeah, everything else I just do for money, really. Very funny one at that. Joe Rogan, the whore of whores. Joe Rogan.
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Chapter 6: How does Kara Swisher critique the tech industry in her book Burn Book?
My guests tonight are the founders of Crooked Media, who created the popular political podcast Pod Save America.
Please welcome John Favreau, John Lovitz, and Tommy Vito, everybody. This is fun. I've never had three cups on the desk before. Looks like we're gonna play one of those games. Let's get straight into it. First of all, big fan of what you guys do on the podcast, Pod Save America.
A lot of people don't know this, but the two of you started off as, or recently worked as speechwriters for President Barack Obama. How does it feel seeing President Obama out there on his own without you guys? Uh... It's not like a baby cub. I mean, he's... No, but, I mean, emotionally, there must be some connection, though. You guys rolled together for so long. I miss him.
I miss working with him. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah. A little humanity. That's what I'm looking for. It never occurs to me. That's exactly what I'm looking for. From now on, I'll fake it.
You guys go. Yeah, you guys go. I'll catch up.
You gotta fake the emotion.
It's also nice that you miss seeing someone leading the country that was, like, is a good person, that loves his family and, like, cares deeply about what he's doing and takes it seriously. I miss that every day when you see Trump who just doesn't.
I mean, that's the hardest thing. I like how you just end on who doesn't. Normally you'd be like, who doesn't exhibit the same, who doesn't?
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Chapter 7: What legacy does Stephen Dubner explore in his Freakonomics podcast?
He just doesn't. Let's talk about the podcast. You guys started off your podcast, but then you moved it to your media company, Crooked Media, great name. And now it really is, there's a certain level of activism that's involved in the podcast. Why did you make that decision?
We thought it's an important time to, there's a lot of people out there who are scared of the Trump presidency, and maybe they haven't paid attention to politics in a long time, and they're saying, how can we get involved? What can we do? How can we help? That's the question we always got when we did our podcast before, and so we want to help people answer that question.
I mean, the political conversation is broken, right? I mean, you see it on TV every day, you see it on cable. Why don't people help them figure out what is going on, what's important, and how can they get involved? Now, you don't just criticize. I mean, the Democrats are also in an interesting situation where many people are saying the party isn't where it should have been
after a president who was as strong as Barack Obama was. The president himself said he didn't do a great job of keeping the grassroots, I guess, mobilized. Keith Ellison complained about that as well. If you're looking at that going forward and you were strategizing, what would you think the Democrats need to do to, I guess, begin a game plan for the next election?
I think that's the hardest question, right? That's a question everybody's got to figure out how to answer, because we lost. We lost the presidency. We've lost the Senate. We've lost the House. We've lost the governorships. We've lost state legislatures. So that's not great, right?
So it's a rebuilding year, you know?
I'm sorry. It sucks, but we're in really bad shape, guys. But the good news is, I think,
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Chapter 8: How do the guests reflect on the evolution of podcasting and media?
That it is a wake-up call. I think people were complacent, and now Trump is president. We are feeling the consequences of that. There's never been this much energy. You have people marching. You have people going to protests. You have people showing up at airports, climate marches, women marches, women's marches.
And I think the fundamental question is, how do you harness that energy and turn it into votes, right? Turn it into people knocking on doors and going to the polls, not just on a presidential year where we won by 3 million votes, right, but in off years.
I also think we've got the opposition part down. And now we need to figure out what we stand for, have a positive message that connects with people. That, you know, an economic agenda that will help change people's lives and just give people something to vote for. I think that's something we learned from the last election.
Yeah, you can applaud for that. You can applaud. It's interesting that you say you've got the opposition part down. because during the campaign, a lot of people felt like Hillary shifted her focus too much to being against Trump and not enough to being for her platform. You were asked to write on the Hillary campaign. And I believe you said, no, I can't write for this.
I cannot carry on writing for Hillary because it feels like this is like speech by committee. What does that mean? There's a lot of, like, Monday morning quarterbacking. Like, we talked about this, that, like, everything went wrong, right? There's a lot of decisions that she made that could have made the difference. She lost by too few votes for that not to be true.
But she was out there talking about economic issues. They wouldn't get covered because everybody was talking about Trump, which is a challenge we should learn from. I'm not doing that to make excuses for Hillary Clinton. I'll go after Hillary Clinton. I don't care. What's she gonna do to me? Nothing. But, uh... She's just a woman in Chappaqua. But, uh... But... But I think it's...
We're going to get Hillary. We're going to get Hillary on this show. This show, our show, all the shows. After that, yeah, she's coming. She's definitely on the show. We'll get her on both shows. She's going to come to your show so you can come off to her. I feel it. I can feel it happening.
But I think it's important to learn that it's really hard to get the media to focus on an economic policy speech when the only part they're going to put on television is the one minute where you go after Trump, right? That was a big problem for their campaign, which is something we should learn from right now. I honestly could spend hours talking to you guys. Your podcast is fascinating.
The three of you are fascinating. Unfortunately, I do not have the time, and that's why we listen to the podcast. Thank you so much for being on the show.
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