Jon Favreau

He recently hit the campaign trail to stump for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan.

And to talk about, well...

Everything you've seen in the news about him lately.

We ended up talking about the many statements he's made that have sparked a discussion inside the Democratic Party about whether candidates should associate themselves with him and his audience.

We also debated his views on Israel and Hamas, how he thinks about the words he chooses and his theory of political organizing.

It's a conversation you need to hear for yourself, so we will get right into it.

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All right, here's Hasan Piker.

Hasan, welcome back to the show.

It's good to be back.

You've somehow become the most argued about figure in democratic politics over the last few weeks.

So I'd like to have a conversation about why that is that is hopefully more nuanced and useful than much of the discourse.

Central to the discourse.

Just a quick recap to set the table for people who, lucky for them maybe, haven't been following along.

A few weeks ago, Third Way, centrist Democratic think tank, published a Wall Street Journal op-ed calling on Democrats to stop engaging with you.

They describe you as anti-American, anti-woman, anti-Western, and anti-Semitic.

Their evidence is a long list of things you've said, which we'll get into.