Jon Ferrara

So the idea behind Goldmine was that there was no Outlook back in the day.

There was no Salesforce.

There was no CRM or SFA or market automation programs at all.

There wasn't a program that integrated email, contact, and calendar or that blended sales and market automation for a team.

So I invented it, started on $5,000, no bank loans, no venture capital, ran it for 10 years, had 5 million customers around the world, and sold it and retired at 40.

It was.

It was a disk that you'd actually get mailed out to.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

And then it became one of those hard plastic ones.

Then it became a CD.

And, uh, yeah, man, this is back before, uh, before outlook was even there.

So we were people's outlook combined with their Salesforce.

And I actually think that was a better solution because today you really live in your inbox and now more and more social media, and then you have to go to your serum to work for it.

And that kind of blows.

5 million total users, about 70 million in annual revenue, about 250 team members worldwide, about 5,000 bars and 500 third party add-on products.

Nah, it didn't.

They didn't really work that way back then.

It wasn't necessarily annual recurring revenue because it was kind of like new revenue that we're selling every year with some maintenance recurrals, etc.

So back then, this is imagine there was 1999, literally months before the technology bubble burst.