Jon Kabat-Zinn

We already have this superpower called awareness. And yet, when we go to school, all we're taught is how to think. And thinking is a great superpower, and it's given rise to science and everything else.

We already have this superpower called awareness. And yet, when we go to school, all we're taught is how to think. And thinking is a great superpower, and it's given rise to science and everything else.

We already have this superpower called awareness. And yet, when we go to school, all we're taught is how to think. And thinking is a great superpower, and it's given rise to science and everything else.

But actually, even a lot of the science comes out of the moments before the thinking sets in, where you have a nonverbal realization, an aha moment, where you see things that no one else has seen up to that point. Then you win the Nobel Prize, or everybody thinks, wow, what a great insight. And sometimes mindfulness is even called insight meditation, but it's not something you do.

But actually, even a lot of the science comes out of the moments before the thinking sets in, where you have a nonverbal realization, an aha moment, where you see things that no one else has seen up to that point. Then you win the Nobel Prize, or everybody thinks, wow, what a great insight. And sometimes mindfulness is even called insight meditation, but it's not something you do.

But actually, even a lot of the science comes out of the moments before the thinking sets in, where you have a nonverbal realization, an aha moment, where you see things that no one else has seen up to that point. Then you win the Nobel Prize, or everybody thinks, wow, what a great insight. And sometimes mindfulness is even called insight meditation, but it's not something you do.

It's something you learn to inhabit that's already yours. And that's awareness.

It's something you learn to inhabit that's already yours. And that's awareness.

It's something you learn to inhabit that's already yours. And that's awareness.

Thank you. It's wonderful to be with you, Jon.

Thank you. It's wonderful to be with you, Jon.

Thank you. It's wonderful to be with you, Jon.

Wonderful. I love that. And I think you zeroed in on exactly what I think is most important to investigate and bring more into the world at this juncture in time.

Wonderful. I love that. And I think you zeroed in on exactly what I think is most important to investigate and bring more into the world at this juncture in time.

Wonderful. I love that. And I think you zeroed in on exactly what I think is most important to investigate and bring more into the world at this juncture in time.

Yeah. Well, thanks for starting there. Interesting place to start because it's like a long time ago. This is now, we're talking 1965, and the Vietnam War was just heating up. There was this naval incident off the coast of Vietnam where the American Navy accused the non-existent Vietnamese Navy of attacking it, and it was the pretext for the war.

Yeah. Well, thanks for starting there. Interesting place to start because it's like a long time ago. This is now, we're talking 1965, and the Vietnam War was just heating up. There was this naval incident off the coast of Vietnam where the American Navy accused the non-existent Vietnamese Navy of attacking it, and it was the pretext for the war.

Yeah. Well, thanks for starting there. Interesting place to start because it's like a long time ago. This is now, we're talking 1965, and the Vietnam War was just heating up. There was this naval incident off the coast of Vietnam where the American Navy accused the non-existent Vietnamese Navy of attacking it, and it was the pretext for the war.

I was like depressed about the political situation to a great extent. And I was a first year graduate student in molecular biology at MIT. And I'm walking down the corridors at MIT, which are longer than any other building in the world, except maybe the Pentagon. And at that time, they weren't painted colorful, imaginative ways, but they were all like a junior high school in New York City.

I was like depressed about the political situation to a great extent. And I was a first year graduate student in molecular biology at MIT. And I'm walking down the corridors at MIT, which are longer than any other building in the world, except maybe the Pentagon. And at that time, they weren't painted colorful, imaginative ways, but they were all like a junior high school in New York City.