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Jon Lee Anderson

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629 total appearances

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

Because he has no real power.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

But I think for someone like Trump, you know, he's, well, as we know, he's rather simplistic.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

So he thinks we got rid of Maduro and now it's mine.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

Venezuela's mine.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

If we get Diaz-Canel out of there, it'll look good because he's the top guy.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

I think that the quagmire of the U.S.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

in the Middle East, because of the Iran war right now, plays into the hands of the Cubans that are having to negotiate their survival or whatever with the Americans.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

They have, you know, a few days of oil supplies left.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

The Americans have been blockading them ever since they captured Maduro on the 3rd of January.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

and not been allowing any other energy supplies to come into Cuba for the government's use.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

So they're in the sort of 14th round, and it kind of gets the ropes here.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

They have to figure out how to get the Americans to give them some fuel.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

And of course, there's a front end, which is, you know, as we've heard through leaks, Marco Rubio basically wants an economic opening.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

He's not going for

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

regime change, but a kind of Maduro-like thing where they find a Delci and its regime kind of succession, stabilization.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

They don't want chaos in Cuba.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

But the tail end of that, of any package they are going to try to force the Cubans to agree to, will include some kind of notional political succession or transformation.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

The Cubans are very unlikely to agree to that because that would mean negotiating themselves out of existence.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Is Cuba Trump’s Next Target?

And as people on an island, they have nowhere to go.