Jon Lee Anderson

Yet they won't face bombs or guns like the Iranians are right now.

It'll be more, we think, more like Venezuela.

But these are people who have spent the last nearly 70 years.

conjuring up strategies to survive American strategies of containment, outright hostility, attacks, and usually bested them, and also negotiations.

So if I'm them, I'm thinking to myself, the Americans have gotten themselves into a mess over there.

This plays to us.

So let's spin out the negotiations.

Let's do some economic concessions, which we're already seeing talk about, but let's tread water on the political thing.

Oh, gosh.

I mean, look, since 2021, there's been an exodus.

You know, nobody knows exactly, but anywhere up to 20% of the population have left.

It is incredible.

And of course, it's an island.

People have to pay to leave.

And therefore, you can imagine if it had land borders, how many more would have left?

Maybe similar to Venezuela, where about a third of the population has left over 10 years, right?

Because of economic collapse.

But primarily young people and anybody with skills.

So you might be a doctor with a heart cardiac specialist in Havana, and you end up pushing some ancient person around Miami in a care home.

And that's the kind of – or driving an Uber somewhere.