Jon Lee Anderson

It's interesting that Cuba is as bad as it is.

that people who were members of the repressive apparatus in Cuba's communist government have decided they could slip in unnoticed and maybe live out their lives and in the United States.

The point is, I think we're in now a post-ideological era, you know, in which Trump is on the right, but nobody in their hearts

believes that he has any real attachment to any political philosophy right communism clearly has failed in the hemisphere the cuban revolutionary dream is over but at the same time you know there's no loyalty to the past coming from this new set of leaders in the united states and this idea that

everybody's deportable if they're brown skinned or God forbid, black skinned and come from one of these countries to our south.

It's a real betrayal, I think, of, you know, even the most hackneyed principles of that in which we upheld America as a place of freedom, this kind of lighthouse for freedom and refugees.

It's that's over, too.

And so, you know what?

A lot of people go around talking about the American dream.

Well, what is the American dream?

And to whom?

Well, the American dream for generations of Latin Americans has been the city on the hill, a place of freedom where you could go and you could make a living.

You might even be able to put your kids through college and you could say what you wanted.

Not anymore.

And in a very perverse way,

It's kind of aping the authoritarian frameworks of the societies that many of them have fled.

I just didn't want to see Trump.

Oh, no.

I mean, your insurance for your home is not exactly going to be great.