Jon Lovett

And then you have moments where Democrats or people that just don't like Trump almost organically cancel Disney+.

And that's noticed.

That seems to be a moment of influence.

But for the most part, it feels like if you're a CEO and you're more worried about Trump than you are the opposition to Trump, that's correct.

How does that change?

And what did like the kind of, he's done something interesting, right?

He's gone and met with business executives that would be really skeptical of him.

And he's charming them a little bit.

What are you hearing behind the scenes about him?

So the book is 1929, Inside the Greatest Crash in History and How it Shattered a Nation.

Last thoughts on this, which you end the book talking about two things, which is humility and resilience.

Yeah.

We need a lot of both.

I'm not interested in resilience right now because I sometimes feel as though we kind of rely on it.

And let's say for a moment we're not.

Let's act as if we aren't.

But humility.

If we look back on this moment.

And there is some kind of a crash to come, whether it's around AI investments or crypto or something we can't see coming that sort of the dark sides of the market finding their way into people's 401ks.

What are the obvious signs right now that will look back and say, God damn it, we were so fucking stupid.