Jon Lovett

which is not in their instinct.

But is there an understanding behind the scenes here that while any one short-term capitulation might be in the interest of an Apple or another major company, that in the long run,

you know, a patronage economy, like an Orban style economy.

It's not good for business.

And that there is a collective interest in finding ways to head that off, especially as you noted, the one governor of Trump has been the markets and being afraid of sinking them.

Right.

That's a smart – that's a good idea because presumably one would think the government demanding 10 percent of intel might have been at least a shade of maroon, a light pink line.

One would think –

So the first part is why there isn't more collective action.

The second part we talked about, which is why they're afraid of Trump, which I think makes sense.

Third part.

when Tim Cook goes and kisses the ring, when colleges capitulate, when law firms or media companies capitulate, it's not just because they think Trump is scary.

It's because they think the people that don't like Trump aren't to be worried about even one little bit.

Now you've had Elizabeth Warren and some other Democrats try to signal, hey,

It doesn't matter if all your friends are doing it.

These are corrupt deals.

In some form, these are bribes.

We will come after you once we are in power again.

I think that matters.

It doesn't seem to matter very much.