Jon Lovett

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15,055 appearances 44 recordings 6 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 8 Sep

Jon Lovett’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The thing I've been struggling with this conversation, this has been a, I would say it's not been a fun time online for a podcast associated with Graham Plattner.
I mean, you should have your moment.
But is that really trying to struggle?
I've tried to struggle with what like the broader lesson is here.
Because it shouldn't be that outsider candidates are bad.
Yeah, yeah, no, that, I mean, that is the, that is the true.
But I think what I'm saying, like, for example, there was this Biden aide who's on CNN today who is saying, basically taking Plattner, comparing him to Abdul El-Sayed, and saying, like, also unvetted, same consultants,
And it was just absurd because Abdul has run for governor and has been a government official in Michigan for a while.
So that's an absurd comparison.
But is this idea that people who are.
Outsiders or first time candidates are inherently risky because they haven't been tested.
They've been vetted by the system.
Yes, because here are two other people who have had huge sexual misconduct, sexual assault problems who are the insider candidates of Eric Swalwell and Andrew Cuomo.
Right.
Right.
There's nothing there's nothing about being a creep that is exclusive to first time.
It's also true.
I mean, the other thing that, you know, the other as you as we think about this and like what it all means, like one story that people can tell that it's not an incorrect story is that a bunch of podcast bros and Democratic strategists and other dumb men online fell for the shtick of this narcissist.
Right.
Right.
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