Jon Ossoff

So I was on the corporate media side as well.

I worked for Vox Media for a long VOX, Vox Media, SB Nation at the time.

I had a serious XM show nationally.

I was on Spike TV.

I worked with Showtime, CBS Sports.

I mean, you kind of name it.

I've done basically everything you can really do in the industry.

And now to your point, I'm on Substack and YouTube.

This is a more complicated answer because you could even go back to 1930s Brazil and the origins of the Gracie family.

These are the people who are the original UFC one stars.

Hoist Gracie was the star of that.

He was using jujitsu.

It's kind of like wrestling with pajamas, essentially, to beat people much larger than him.

And it was this revolution.

actually in general really was a revelatory moment for hand-to-hand combat in terms of understanding what worked and what didn't and what was valuable.

But like that family in the 1930s were part of the integralist movement, which was a, like, like a validly openly, uh, based on European fascism is a fascist movement.

And, um,

Oh, we got some integralists now.

I know about that.

Yeah, right.