Jon Ossoff

The sort of railing against the excesses of cancel culture.

And you've seen among some of their supporters that they're shaken by this betrayal of those supposed principles.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, ICE just opened a contract with them.

Did they really?

With the NSO group?

Yeah.

Oh, that's great.

I think it's the successor.

It's like Paragon, I think it's called.

I think the other piece of this that it's like more complicated, but potentially equally dangerous is...

the use of official power to bully tech companies into how they run the algorithm that delivers content to people, right?

Like threatening to take NBC off the air because you think that their coverage is too negative is obviously like a brazen, unconstitutional, un-American attempt at a sort of classic form of censorship.

But

You know, if they go to Meta or they go to Musk or this group of allies who may now be running TikTok and they say,

Turn the dial.

Turn the dial.

That is a more subtle, but in this world that we're living in, potentially more powerful way for them to control the information that gets to the public.

I think probably yes, in some cases.

But I think that the whataboutism is like pretty limited in its validity because we're talking about things that are vastly different, right?