Jon Patton

Getting people to come out...

in one aspect is easy and then another it's not just because gun con feels like you're not the, not the fuddiness, but it feels like a smaller town gun show.

Like it feels like you're going to these booths and you're meeting people and you're not,

inundated by these gigantic booths and hundreds of displays, you have smaller places that you're going to be able to hit a lot of people in one day.

You should be able to see everybody.

And this definitely feels more...

more directed towards the media.

Like you, you have put in a lot of effort to have a media range day access to the companies beforehand before the general public come in.

And then on top of that, have the ability for people that are coming for the general public to talk to their influencers that they watch every day.

Yep.

And so that, that right there is a, is a big deal.

in this kind of an industry.

The relationships that you build from doing just media is a big deal, I think.

And so you also do panels.

You also live stream those, right?

Yeah, that sounds like it.

I always make sure that I watch it.

I watch the entire thing start to finish because it happens on a Saturday.

So it kind of it works out that I can just have it playing all day long.

And so anything else new for GunCon this year that you think that people should know about?