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American Crossfire 83 – Jon Patton is Back

09 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What updates are shared about GunCon '26?

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16.289 - 40.302 Jon Patton

And as always, thank you for being here and thank you to the Firearms Radio Network for having us. And we do appreciate the Firearms Radio Network. Go over there and check it out. All kinds of new podcasts. Rimfire Radio is now on the Firearms Radio Network. Um, we have been gone for three weeks, um, between people, um, getting so close to death because of, um, viruses.

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And then Easter has been kind of crazy these past few weeks. But as you can tell, we have the famous John Patton from the gun collective on here. I'm not famous.

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I'll do that.

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52.708 - 54.47 Jon Patton

Oh, you're getting there. You're getting there.

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More than people know you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's true. That's true.

60.179 - 91.868 Jon Patton

I was going to say more than what were you up to? 30 subscribers know you, but we don't even have a YouTube channel now. So what happened to your YouTube channel? So we've been getting random strikes and They were pulling our podcast just one after another, starting at the beginning. Interesting. And they were only pulling the podcast version. The live stream stayed up.

Chapter 2: How has YouTube impacted the gun content creation process?

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At this point, I'm to the point I'm just going to make another channel and see if we can kind of get around it. And I think my problem was that I kind of remember a time where you couldn't say dot com, but you could have dot com links in the description. Okay. And I think that I messed up there. And so I still had our ammo squared affiliate link in the description of the podcast.

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That's the only thing that I can think of. I mean, that makes sense. The other times that we've gotten it, it's so random on how it tells you what is wrong.

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The problem they have as a platform is that the information they give you when they first delete something is almost never accurate. Sometimes they get it right, but it's very, very inaccurate when they're like, here's a timestamp. Here's this. Here's the rule you've broken. It's just not great.

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219.689 - 242.898 Jon Patton

And there's no way to get anybody to talk to you if you don't have a million subscribers. Even then it's hard. Yeah. And there was one time that it showed me. I said, when I started the podcast, I started talking and I said, I'm about to buy new arms. And that was the clip that they gave me that was wrong. And I was like, are you kidding me?

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Yeah, it's probably something else. They've done that to me. I had an argument with them where they tagged me showing the Palmetto State Armory logo As like violative. And I was like, well, that's not that's ridiculous. It's not even a thing. And then it turned out there was a dot com that we had missed deeper in the show. And that's what flagged that particular video.

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Yeah, because they were talking about how even some people that were doing SHOT Show content, if they had a .com on a banner behind them, that it would get them flagged.

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Yeah, I'm going to have a powwow with the creators that are coming to GunCon about exactly that. Listen, you have to learn how to use a blur tool because you're going to get screwed otherwise.

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Yeah. And the thing that made me the maddest is that we would get a strike or we'd get, hey, this is wrong. And I would appeal it. And five seconds later, I'd get the email, your appeal is. And I'm like, so you're having AI scrub these videos and then you're having AI do the appeal.

Chapter 3: What challenges do creators face with YouTube's policies?

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And so I took a chance on this last time. I have been starting to try to work with GA2A, which is the state rights group here. Okay. And I am trying to work with them. So we had a day at the Capitol on March the 2nd. So I had Chuck on to talk about it. And the only thing that we said that was related to that was GA2A.net. Is it .com? GA2A.com. And I'm like, does that count?

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And that is what canceled our show. That is what deleted our channel because that was the last strike.

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So the problem you have is this. The problem you have is if they have a link right there on their homepage to like a firearms giveaway or something like that, that's going to get you in trouble. The problem is not what the link is and who the organization is. It's what's on their website at the time. And if somebody over in Bangladesh thinks that's against policy.

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Because you're not getting an American.

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411.738 - 420.719 Jon Patton

And that may have been the problem. He talked about 308. So 308 day, they were giving away a 308. But we didn't.

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Yeah. That's probably a bigger problem. If he talked about that, that's probably the issue, not the website.

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And so even if he doesn't give the website to it. Correct. So you can't even talk about a giveaway. Nope. Don't even try it. Oh, okay. Well, that's good to know.

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I mean, you have to be super, super creative. Like, for example, I'm going this as of this recording this Friday, I am going to speak at a GOA event and I was getting ready to promote it. And they sent over a list of all the stuff they're doing at the event. And you can say giveaways, but you can't say that word and some other words combined.

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You can't do those things, at least without getting in trouble. So my point is, I told GOA, like, hey, I can't do anything with this. I can't put it on Facebook, can't put it on Instagram. This is going nowhere. I'm sorry.

Chapter 4: How are creators adapting to YouTube's restrictions?

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It's like, we want to do things the normal way. Guess what? The normal way doesn't work. Figure it out. Yeah. The normal way doesn't work. You have to go other ways or you're going to fail. Look at Palmetto State Armory as one of the biggest retailer-based... YouTube channels out there. Classic firearms. Great example. None of that is about sales. It works, but it's not about sales.

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That's how you win. Huh.

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523.173 - 525.015 Jon Patton

I never thought of it that way.

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Me neither. Most of us are looking at the problem right here. We're looking here. We need to be looking at all of this problem. This problem is much larger than the gun industry. This is not specific to guns. There are plenty of other regulated industries, alcohol, tobacco, blah, blah, blah, like gambling, all this stuff, right? They have so many things. to deal with as a platform YouTube.

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And I'm not making excuses for them. I'm giving context. They don't care. They don't, they don't. Can I curse on this show or do you not?

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Yeah, well, we don't, but okay, then I won't.

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Um, They don't care and they're unlikely to care. And what that means for us in the gun industry is we need to come up with creative solutions on how to move around and still not be in violation of their things. I have stopped putting certain things in TGC's content because of that. And sponsors know this. We talk about having a sponsor. We don't talk about their websites.

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We don't talk about anything like that. We don't because we can't. And the sponsors have to know that.

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Okay. First rule of thumb.

Chapter 5: What creative marketing strategies are discussed for the gun industry?

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Hello? That makes sense. I could have swore that it said Basilisk. Step one, say the name of the gun that is correct. Step two, shoot gun.

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1637.654 - 1651.151 Jon Patton

That's no fun. I'm pretty sure that we go down one of these rabbit holes every year with you. Sure, probably. Oh, let me see.

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Their website is there, but it's just so very, very, very slow right now. Probably because we're creating content right now.

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Yeah, of course.

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And it's in Turkish.

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And it's in Turkish.

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You're in Turkish. Got them. Pistoles. Pistoles.

1672.276 - 1690.565 Jon Patton

Yeah, so I saw it on the stage before they called the stuff names. And I was like, I've never even heard of that company. Now that I know that it's ballistic. But the logo is like a BS, so I'm still not exactly sure.

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Well, you can just call it the BS in 1911. Yeah.

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