Jon Sopel

And they're going, oh, hang on.

Maybe we should be sounding a bit more like him.

Maybe we should be a bit more rightward leaning.

And so just as we talk quite often about Labour being squeezed between, you know, sort of reform on their right and the Greens on their left, reform themselves are also weirdly being squeezed between Restore on their right and the Conservatives on their left.

Nobody.

Oh, Jesus.

That's where we are.

I mean, that was a starter for 10 question, which should have been so easy.

There wasn't even a blink before he said no.

Instead, Chris Coons, the Democratic senator there who was asking the questions, has got to go round the whole room to find somebody who is going to adhere to the US Constitution and say, have the bravery.

I mean...

What age are we in now when no one has the bravery to say that Trump should not, cannot stand again as president?

The tram lines have crossed at this point, haven't they?

Yeah.

The judiciary, on the one hand...

Staying clear of the politics on the right is gone.

I mean, at least as far as that little fella is concerned.

He has to put the politics of trying to please Donald Trump before what he knows as the law.

And that's where we are.

Starmer was a very different man six years ago.