Jon Stewart

He did some great 9-11 stuff, Juan Gonzalez.

Juan Gonzalez is, but he is, he was spectacular.

And doing it for a paper that was like, hey, I think this might get us in trouble.

Oh, wow.

But Amy, the people have to be armed with information.

With the information that they don't, that the dots have to be connected.

And you know...

The one thing that they always say, and it's such a strange formulation of what journalism should be, they always say, well, you're not a journalist, Amy, you're an activist.

And I don't understand how any journalist, and by the way, I think it's because they think activism is a partisan endeavor, but activism in the service of anti-corruption or in the service of justice or in the service of amplification of voices that don't get to go,

is exactly what then what is journal journalism is not narration it's not a security camera in a 7-eleven that's just capturing images what you've infused and what democracy now always did so well is you infused the passion and the activism for justice not partisan there's a great scene in the film uh bill clinton calls into your program

it's the election 2000, was it?

Yeah.

And it's election day.

And so Amy gets a chance, Bill Clinton, he's just calling a bunch of people, you know, he's causing democracy.

Now it's just another constituency.

She lays out some of the best incisive questions to the point where like Bill Clinton, you can, you don't see him cause he's on the phone, but you can imagine that Clinton ask almost, you know,

the cartoon that Plimpton might draw of Clinton, of just his face getting red like, you're being rude, young lady.

Stop asking me these questions.

It's such a great moment that it absolutely, I think, illuminates what happens when independent activist anti-corruption media meets power.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.