Jon Wuebben

So we're now saying no to those kind of projects.

And what we're doing is reporting over all the agency clients into the platform, and we have about 40 agency clients over the last two years that we're doing that.

So now, yeah, we're all in, it's all about software moving forward.

No, I don't think you're wrong.

It's just one way of seeing it.

You see it that way and I see it different.

I don't want to get caught up in the minutiae of, oh, how much sales did we do last night?

How many sales did we do last week?

Because I don't think that's a healthy place to be.

Well, I think I am.

Maybe I just didn't communicate that correctly.

Look, I'm wearing a lot of hats and yeah, maybe I still do have one foot in the agency world.

It takes time to transition and we're getting through that.

I think one of the problems for me, here's the honest truth, is that we've had over the last few months, we've had some bugs and troubling bugs with the platform that I'm not a software developer, so it's frustrating for me.

I talk to my team about them and

you know, they keep happening.

So we're, we're working through those.

Um, so until I have a product that's, you know, pretty much bug free and it works the way it's supposed to work, then I'm going to be a little cautious.

Right.

Um, so I do have to be a little bit hesitant in terms of, you know, if we've got a bug that can't be fixed in two, three weeks and we're still having the issue,