Jonah Goldberg

It is particularly appalling because we know that Tucker can ask hard questions.

He can grill people.

When he disagreed with Ted Cruz about the bombing of Iran, he barely let Ted get a word in edgewise and was constantly quizzing him to knock him off his game.

We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel?

We are commanded to support Israel.

What does that mean, Israel?

But when he talks to a guy who says he loves Stalin and Hitler and thinks women really want to be raped and all of these sorts of things, he's like, hmm, tell me more.

You know, sort of channeling his old Barbara Walters or something like that.

And so a lot of people were very cross about this.

The Heritage Foundation, which advertises with Tucker Carlson, Tucker is the keynote speaker at their 50th anniversary gala.

The Heritage Foundation got a lot of grief for its association with Tucker.

And so Kevin Roberts,

came out and issued a video statement.

Nobody disputes that this video statement was a complete friggin' disaster.

— He said, we will not disavow Tucker Carlson anyway.

We will not cancel Tucker Carlson.

We are joined at the hip with Tucker Carlson.

And then he said — — The venomous coalition attacking him are so in division.

So it was of this serious dog whistle that suggested that, you know, string-pulling Machiavellian Jews were behind this and we're not going to cave into it.

That was definitely the way it was interpreted by a lot of people outside of Heritage and a lot of people inside Heritage.