Jonas Siegel

There just aren't a lot of trades.

That's the other thing.

So this is the issue that they have.

And that is why the scorched earth rebuild stuff, it seems lazy, but it may actually be the only route five years, ten years down the road.

Because this road, it just may be a dead end.

If we're talking cup contention or actually winning a Stanley Cup, that's another part of the conversation that I don't think is coming up enough in the market is are you retooling to just get back into the playoffs or are you retooling to actually win the thing?

Because those are two separate conversations.

right some of there's there's four to six teams probably every year four to eight teams i would say in both conferences they get in and they're seat fillers they're not winning anything but they're in and there are examples of teams this year if buffalo gets in that's their stanley cup they got in it's been i don't think that's not the way they're talking man yeah they can talk a big game oh but it's they're not winning a stanley cup in my opinion i with that goaltending i just i don't i don't personally see it

We'll find out, and they can say whatever they want, and good for them for the confidence.

My point is, if you're in that market, you're like, I just want to make the playoffs.

That's what I want, is to make the playoffs.

I think there's other teams like the Islanders that would say, we just got to get in.

It's a great story if we just get in.

We just had the first overall pick.

Just get us in, and this is a cool story.

So what are the Leafs trying to accomplish?

Retool to save jobs and just get in?

Or actually try to take the... Like now they're a step back of where they even were for nine years.

For nine years they were here, and they had to take another big step.

Now they're two steps back.