Jonas Siegel

He was still a great player, obviously, but they had a lot of other pieces.

Now, that was pre-salary cap, so it's not even fair to compare it.

Yeah, but the margin was so much smaller.

They're in Game 7 of the Cup Final.

The Leafs are not even close to that.

I think, again, that's the thing about the retool.

A lot of people are looking at it like, retool this one over the next six months, and next year you're right back.

It may not be.

It may be a three- or four-year retool.

it may be like we have to completely build up the system where we have a bunch of kids coming up, we win some trades, we find a couple of savvy pros around, and you blend more into the middle as opposed to you being on the top.

He may say, I'm out of here.

He might.

Right, but the other flip side of that coin is you can't guarantee the next place you go is going to win.

Let's say it's Matthews, and he says, I want out.

How many of the top teams have room for $13.5 million?

$13.5 million.

And how many teams is he going there where he's not the man?

These are different conversations.

Do you want to be the man on the Stanley Cup winning team?

Or do you just want to win?