Jonathan Agnew

Right, so the second day of the third Test match sees England with a deficit of 158 with just two wickets left in hand.

Is this the day that finally their ashes hopes died?

We'll be discussing that, trying to go through the weeds of what has been a very, very irksome day for England fans, but a brilliant day for Australia, whose bowlers have dominated today.

They've given absolutely nothing away.

They've been superb.

For England, some precious few shining lights.

Ben Stokes, the captain, leading the way, still there, unbeaten at the close of play, a very lengthy vigil, 151 balls he's faced for his 45.

With him, Joffre Archer, an unbroken ninth-wicket stand of 45, which you have to say has probably been the brightest spot of the day, and of course, a fairly pugnacious knock from Harry Brook, but also one in which he batted within himself.

Before we go to Dawid Milan, who is with us, and

Glenn McGrath, Agus, your sort of helicopter view of a day that's just felt flat for England, but brilliant for Australia.

nine or ten fours it was horrible to watch really Archer's first over was pretty slothful and then Carr's started instead of Josh Tung which none of us could understand

Archer it was who took the two wickets, though, to end with 5 for 53.

And he did bowl splendidly throughout, really, apart from that first over.

Today, 5 for 53 of 20.2 overs.

The standout bowler, the damage had really been done yesterday when Australia were allowed to get away.

And those would have felt like bonus runs, perhaps, for Australia.

But when England went out to bat, there was a real sense, as that opening partnership got off to it,

a good start 37 in next to no time that the pitch was flat the day was boiling hot Dawood Milan is with us and it felt like a beautiful day to bat but it didn't turn out that way for England what was it still a beautiful day to bat and a beautiful pitch but just Australia were too good

I mean, England found, I say England, they found a pretty good tempo up front, but then they lost those three wickets for five runs.

And you'd have to say it's not the driving on the up anymore.