Jonathan Agnew

to take a different approach from the one that they've been really harking on about for the last three years and then put it into practice in a pressure situation when all of the ashes is on the line?

David, we appreciate it.

We've got to let you go.

Thank you so much for joining us on today's podcast.

And we just have to hope for some kind of a miracle tomorrow.

Cheers, David.

Right, so...

Let's go back to the way England batted.

I felt that they kind of got the tempo sort of right up to a point, but then Australia, Glenn, bowled so much better than England.

So we were thinking that this was a pitch that was a good one and that was run-soaked.

And yesterday was a bit of a false dawn for England because Australia gifted quite a lot of wickets.

England didn't gift many wickets.

We've talked about Ollie Pope.

He did.

We will talk about Jamie Smith.

He did.

But for the most part, there was diligence in England's approach, but there was brilliance from Australia's bowlers.

But actually, the way Crawley got out was a lovely bit of bowling.

The way Brooke got out is a lovely bit of bowling.

So how is it that an Australian can come into the side?